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P: 11/15/2009 2:08:14 PM
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On 11/13/2009 4:03:42 PM shwh wrote:

I'm a total novice in using 'elipses' but am planning to take Barrie's seminar so have started trying to work with them.  My sun sign is Capricorn and by archetype I'm drawn to structure and symmetry - which  led to the way the elipses are stacked on the attached chart for today. 

Perhaps it's just chance but it certainly played out well today.

Have a great weekend everyone.

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Here is a shot of the YM chart - you can check the PUC thread and see the similarities between this and the ES chart. Note the action around the Majors and the floors.

all the best,


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P: 11/15/2009 8:14:51 PM
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THX!

Where would be the entry/exit points?




Mama does not know but there is nothing new under the sun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2_kpSYxXI&feature=related

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P: 11/16/2009 1:05:30 PM
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>>>>Where would be the entry/exit points?


Hi HT,

The chart I posted had 2 easy trades based on the material I already covered at the PUC. One buy and one sell.

Ellipses, squares, forks, action/reaction lines etc... all of these are tools we use to isolate trading opportunities. Before we can find these opportunities in a consistent manner, we have to learn how too use the tool properly.

My main goal and the 1st step is to make sure everyone is using the ellipse properly. This will lay down the foundation to build the next level which is isolating high probability setups, followed by entry and the management of the trade. We will cover all of this and more at the January Seminar.

The ellipse has 3 areas of importance, the major, the floor and the roof. How price behaves near these areas will dictate the trading strategy. Check today's (11/16/09) after I post it the action around the major was the key.

I have posted at least a couple of months worth of charts on the PUC thread, I don't just post end of day charts, I try to capture several charts for the day - so that you can see how the ellipse settings early in the day played out in to the future.

Price action within an ellipse gives the best feedback for traders. And it's a base tool, like a trendline or a square, so once you know how to use it, the actual trading becomes more consistent and the charts much easier to read.

all the best,

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P: 11/16/2009 6:21:37 PM
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-pre open chart for 11-16-09
-major was @  98.50
-see step by step charts for the day on the PUC thread
 
 
 
/idealbb/files/111609.es.713.png

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P: 11/17/2009 10:14:39 PM
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-SPX daily with the most current ellipse, got to the current spot through a chain of stacks.
- right side of the ellipse is the valid area
- major is near 1107.10
- as you can see, the last 2 days action is starting to push above the major..
 
/idealbb/files/spx1.png

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P: 11/19/2009 11:53:33 PM
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If you are registered for the webinar, please ask Earik for access to the workshop forum. We are doing on going pre seminar prep work there so that you will be comfortable with the tools before the seminar. 
 
all the best,
 
Barrie
 
 
 
 

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P: 11/24/2009 8:00:13 PM
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update to the chart I posted on the 17th
 
/idealbb/files/11-24-2009 6-55-37 PM.png

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P: 11/25/2009 10:47:47 AM
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Hi Barrie,

Any chance you would share the coin flip trade management strategy you had your friend use?  The entry/profit taking/trailing stop rules you had him use?

Thanks.

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P: 11/26/2009 10:04:44 AM
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P: 11/26/2009 10:08:20 AM
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The coin flip trading;
 
- Get your list of stocks, more the better, try at least 1000 but more the better.
 
- Now get "supercool random number generator" or a similar generator. Limit the selection from 1 to the max stocks you have chosen. The "supercool random number generator" is the best I've seen, they have a demo that will work for this test. Here is the link http://www.supercoolbookmark.com/random/
 
- There are different ways to configure the number of stocks to trade, you can come up with your own or if you have 1000 stock list then trade no more than 10-20 per day. These 10-20 you will get according to the output of the random number generator. You need to have a numbered list of the stocks in a spreadsheet.
 
- You do this 2 to 3 times a week. You are not trading every day. Else you won't have time to do anything else. Trade anywhere from 100-500 shares.
 
- Now that you have your selection, use the generator to output head (0) and tails (1) for each of the stocks on your list. This takes about 3 seconds, saves a lot of time over coin flips. So if you have 20, the generator will output 0s and 1s randomly 20 times. 0 = buy
 
- Open a demo account and put the trades on buying on the close or the open next day. Make sure you have enough funding, so add about 500K to 1000K.
 
- If the market is near a swing high or a swing low, then stop goes below the high or the low.
- If the market is trending, stop goes below the 50% retracement of the swing.
- If it's breaking out of a consolidation the stop goes below the consolidation.
 
- When profits equal your risk, we take 50% off or 100% depending on where the market is. We used a few simple tools to help us manage the trade, trendlines, retracements and market action or pattern it's working out. For example if we went long on a downtrending market and the market rallies up to the descending trendline, we would exit 75-100%, moving stops to break even. If the market rallies in to a previous consolidation area we would exit 75-100% and move stops to break even. If the market breaks out we would look for an equal price move to exit/cover or the 50% method above. I hope you get the idea by now. We have to be alert to the management part. We are trying to get to breakeven as fast as possible while allowing the market to have some room to move.
 
- After the initial 50% we would exit the rest in 50% sections, so ideally it was in 3rds. If the market is moving very fast, as in a 3rd wave, then we would simply move the stop to break even and let it run as much as it can w/o taking our prev days high or low. As soon as momentum slows we would go to the normal profit taking rules above.
 
- Use the adx or something similar to monitor markets that are running strong, and trail your stop near 50% of the entire move. If you see resistance or a pattern completion on daily or weekly, exit or bank more profits and move stop closer.
 
- try to keep .20-.33 or less for as long as you can. Use basic structure of the market to help with stops and targets.
 
- If the market starts going against you and you see that your entry was at a completion of a pattern or some other major s/r area then exit before stop is hit on a reversal bar of any type. If you are stopped and then market goes your way there is no re-entry.
 
- As you can see the entry is 100% random but the management is 100% hands on. So to do this correctly you need to have a pretty good understanding of price behavior and market structure.
 
- One last point. If you have more than 2-5 stocks from the same sector, specially small to medium sectors then throw the rest out and run the generator again to pick another.
 
- I think I covered all the steps and details, if I left something out, please feel free to ask.
 
- Speaking of market structure, one of the best ways to understand the price movement is by using some of Gann's tools. In the January Seminar we will cover this area and look at some unique and reliable ways to understand the true vibration of the market. If you go back and study Gann's trades and charts you will see that he always looked at the market vibration first, how it has been vibrating - which gives you a good idea of how it will unfold. After that he considered the astro and other esoteric methods - not in that order but in importance.
 
- After writing the first post on this topic I have spent many hours pondering why I/we never got around to trading it with real money. I have some insights to share and will do it later today or tomorrow.
 
Have a great Thanksgiving!
 
Barrie
 
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On 11/25/2009 10:47:47 AM Xkn wrote:

Hi Barrie,

Any chance you would share the coin flip trade management strategy you had your friend use?  The entry/profit taking/trailing stop rules you had him use?

Thanks.----------------


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P: 12/5/2009 11:42:34 PM
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update to the chart I posted on the 17th and the 24th - price has tried 3 times to get through the major - momentum evaporating but price holding on..
 
/idealbb/files/12-5-2009 spx5.png

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P: 12/7/2009 12:02:30 AM
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After I posted the chart above with the ellipse I wanted to apply a few classic tools to see if we can get a bit more insight. A few interesting things showed up.
 
The Bradly indicator, which inverted in July is showing a move down from this time period.
 
There is a major resistance line from the sq288 ( right above the highs) and a major support line below the market ( both marked onthe chart).
 
The Venus speedline from the low is above price now. There is a Venus speedline coming from the high of the market and it's more or less exactly where the c=a falls (1159.00 area) of the March low.
 
The mirror fold I use from a predefined starting point (mirror was not moved to get a fit ) is showing a move down from this time period, much like the Bradley.
 
Mercury has done 1119 degrees since the low and last high was 1119.
 
All this is on top of the price and time squares and the fib numbers that are showing up and some of the interesting things from Simon's SP thread. Unless the Bradley and the mirror fold inverts, looks like we could have a pull back. At times like this I watch the ellipse chart ( like the one posted above ) for the first clues towards any change in trend.
 
/idealbb/files/spx4.png

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P: 12/12/2009 12:17:43 AM
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update to the chart I posted on the 17th ,24th  and the 5th
 
/idealbb/files/spx11.png

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P: 2/8/2010 8:51:17 AM
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Hi All,

I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for all the support, encouragement and the enthusiasm we had for the Seminar. It was shown again, that our community is filled with talented, hard working traders always willing to support and encourage each other. It was a pleasure and an honor getting to know so many of you on a personal level during the Seminar last week. Working with you has been a most satisfying experience that will be cherished. Thank you for making this event a memorable experience for all.

A special thanks to Earik, Laura and Joe for all of their help. Earik worked tirelessly to have the Gann tools ready on time and as usual his execution of the tools is the best I've seen on any Gann related platform - making life easier for all of us

I wish you all much success and abundance,

Barrie

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P: 2/9/2010 1:07:13 PM
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This just shows the mark of the man; Barrie gives a two month daily explanation of the market as he sees it, complete with intra-day learning and interactive group tutorial thread for us all as a prelim to the seminar. Then an actual seminar of 4 full days, him hosting the whole thing. If that wasn't enough, one-on-one mentoring was also included!  He's still helping out and commenting on threads after the event, he's turned himself inside out with superhuman effort and complete dedication, and then he thanks everyone else!!!!!!!!!   Of course, it's quite clear that Earik et al also put a lot of behind the scenes work in here, too, which was not lost on the attendees, either, thank you.
 
A memorable event indeed.

Reece.

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